Sunday Arena Duels

[Bo]

Yall stopped the sunday VVV thing because of CharGar buying something from the auction that someone else had bid on.  Yall ASSUMED it was us with a character named Chargar, so in your infinite wisdom yall thought it would be best to stop VVV, and you than stopped the auctions and blamed it all on VICE. 
Your assumption was that we would get bored, pack up and move on.  And if you could try to tarnish our names maybe the rest of the shard would side with ya and not deal with us forcing us off of siege. 

[LennyM95]

Wow you are delusional and so full of yourself. Are you sure you are not Grimlex?

[LennyM95]

Seriously Bo do you really believe we tried and had a goal to force Vice off of Siege? This is the first I have ever heard anyone bring this up. I doubt very much anyone could ever force myself off of Siege and I do not believe anyone such as yourself could have that done to them.

Your reputation is your own making. All that you say reflects on you. All of your actions reflects on you. For good or for bad you are what you made yourself be. 

[Siege]

sunday arena duels are fun and increase skill of all who watch/fight... to be clear Siege Perilous (me ) is no longer VICE. i have not been VICE for a long time now. showing up to Arena sundays is safe and in guard zone... and u get to kick max's ass and maybe kill bo once in a while... u never get to kill Siege tho >=] cuz ur not good enough... show up and get good

[Wolfman]

You are simply making shit up at this point in time.  If we watched you get looted, oh you would have cried so hard max would have heard it on vacation.  .
What you are saying never happened when the Bo was there. 
Now the shit talk sure Bo might have thrown some jabs at ya, it is a game isn't it?

Right!
You never fough alongside Siege while Max was gone, since he left VICE.
Right, you never joined in on all the smacktalk when Siege was congratulating the looter on a job well done.....
as usual we are making things up and you have the truth!

[Tjalle]

... to be clear Siege Perilous (me ) is no longer VICE. i have not been VICE for a long time now.

So, are you saying you´re still in VICE?
Because according to your own words and actions, even when a person leaves a guild, he/she is still in the guild and should be treated as such. Or does that only apply to people other than yourself?
Can´t have the cake and eat it too, ya know. 

Sorry Max. I guess Siege is still in VICE and speak for VICE. At least, according to him...

[Bo]

every point the bo made was in reference to the Wolfman saying "While you were on vacation, basically the whole incident that stopped the Sunday fights: Siege, Bo and Cherokee (not 100% sure about him/her) fought us. We had 2 casualties and Siege was doing his usual smacktalk and Bo chimed in in gen chat....we got rezed by a healer returned to our bodies and both were partially looted. Not by those three but by bystanders who later said in chat that they would just loot GIL not Vice and Siege was VERY happy about that.
So.....having a loot group not in your guild or alliance but letting them do the looting is the same thing as looting yourself, at least to me."  now you can take what bo said out of context and sure it makes bo look like a liar, but put it after that...  and guess what bo isn't lieing.  and you will be hard pressed to find a time where bo said it would be no loot and than bo had someone loot you..  can any of you make that statement???   Bo has attacked several people on peoples behalf the Bo hasn't liked but Bo said no loots or don't bother someone and a third party broke that, so bo killed them or chased them away.  Several of you have done spawns with Bo.  again when has Bo gone back on bo's word....  NEVER
stop trying to twist the Bo's words, stop tryin to change the subject. 
Bo is still waiting on hearing about this time yall got looted at a vvv event when maxipoo was on vacation.  this sounds like a great story Bo has never heard before. 

[Bo]

So WOLFMAN you said "You never fough alongside Siege while Max was gone, since he left VICE.
Right, you never joined in on all the smacktalk when Siege was congratulating the looter on a job well done.....
as usual we are making things up and you have the truth!" 
But first you said this " While you were on vacation, basically the whole incident that stopped the Sunday fights: Siege, Bo and Cherokee (not 100% sure about him/her) fought us. We had 2 casualties and Siege was doing his usual smacktalk and Bo chimed in in gen chat....we got rezed by a healer returned to our bodies and both were partially looted. Not by those three but by bystanders who later said in chat that they would just loot GIL not Vice and Siege was VERY happy about that.
So.....having a loot group not in your guild or alliance but letting them do the looting is the same thing as looting yourself, at least to me."

at the time of Sunday VVV siege was in our alliance, yall stopped sunday VVV about the middle of June of last year.  And the Bo will have you know Max was not on vacation at that time.  Next yes Bo has had siege on bo's field when bo was outnumbered by yall.  when you go raid a bunch of people doing a krampus wtf you expect?  the people to not work together?  did we have an agreement at the krampus?? 
Now if we go back and look we will see MR WOLFMAN you are the one that seems to be confused here on your timeline. 
VVV ended june 2018, siege out of Vice round end of October 2018, max vacation Jan 2019.   How could what you say happened actually happen?

[Sarah]

Wolfman is right about us stopping the Sunday VvV because of being looted when everyone agreed to no looting. I thought I could trust all of you on your word so I wore a despicable quiver and other nice pieces. The quiver was looted from me that day. I have no clue which month but I never played again with a group I could not trust. I will not read any replies or post again here. Just saw it and wanted to say that is why I quit.

[Max Blackoak]

and clearly it had to have been one of us... we obviously were in on it. *rolls eyes*

[Bo]

Wolfman is right about us stopping the Sunday VvV because of being looted when everyone agreed to no looting. I thought I could trust all of you on your word so I wore a despicable quiver and other nice pieces. The quiver was looted from me that day. I have no clue which month but I never played again with a group I could not trust. I will not read any replies or post again here. Just saw it and wanted to say that is why I quit.

So you couldn't trust us?  How long did you participate in VVV Sundays?  This event went on basically vs us for about 2 years.  So 2 years wasn't enough of us killing and not looting anyone?  You may have been looted, did you see a VICE alliance member do it?  How many times you see a vice guy stand over your corpse during VVV?  we usually chasing the next kill.  Be real we all know that VVV sundays stopped because GIL thought the Vice alliance "scammed" (using your term) y'all at the auction when someone bought someone elses shit off of your vendor during the auction.  That and yall thought we were using cheats, like the running flamestrikes hahahah....

[Max Blackoak]

The only GIL we ever looted during those VvV Sundays were the thieves to get their sigils and the sigils were the only thing looted.
Wait, there's one exception: when I switched to EC and wasn't used to the loot-by-right-click feature yet, I accidentally looted an item off of Joline Maza's corpse when I tried to close her corpse after taking the sigil. I believe it was an npc bought hatchet or something of similar value...

Apart from that VICE has held up the no looting agreement at all times while it lasted.

It is beyong our control when other players show up trying to take advantage. This has happened in the past too. As I said above, Ol' Dirty Basterd (either played by Amadeus or Billy Buttons) has looted during these events, as has a player called a rat and another one who's name I forgot (happened in Trinsic and we killed him/her right outside the main gate as he/she was trying to get away).