Basic PvP tips

Started by Bruin, April 24, 2009, 01:04:03 AM

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Bruin

Just wanted to share some basic pvp tips for those who are new to the pvp arena.


First some general guidelines:

Equipment -
- Plain and simple, equipment keeps you alive.  The more and better equipment you carry, the better chance you have at winning.
- The obvious equipment to carry:
- Armor, if GM try and balance your armour so that you have as close as possible to 60 of each resist.  If better than GM, shoot for higher resists, and look for properties such as mana regen, lower mana cost.
- Regs - if your a mage, try and carry around 60-80 of each reg.
- Warrior - your weapon, bandages, and make sure your tithing is high enough if you use chivalry.
Consumables:
- potions, carry at least 10 g-heal, 10 g-cure, 5 g-refresh (if you are a warrior 10 g-refresh), 3 g-strength, 3 g-agility at minimum.  Potions are cheap and are the difference between life and death.  All these potions would cost about 3k and will last you about 3-4 minutes of real field fighting.  A g-strength is 10 free hp, a g-agility is a 1 second faster heal for healers, makes a big difference.
- for those without magic resist, orange petals (helpful if you don't have resist as well) and trapped boxes.
- more advanced equipment - enchanted apples for curses (necro strangle), rose petals of trinsic for 5 str, drawing a blank right now on the rest.


Guidelines -
- Regarding cross healing, YOU are always responsible for curing YOURSELF.  If you are about to die because you are low on health and are poisoned, CURE yourself and your teammates will provide heal backup.  Make sure you have an adequate way of curing yourself in less than 2 seconds (2 handed weapon warriors, chivalry or drop weapon and cure potion), for the rest of you cure potions.
- If you see an enemy suddenly appear on the battlefield, on foot and apparently not doing anything, run like hell cause you're about to be bola'd (see Alizaren for demonstration).  If they are wielding a heavy xbow, run like hell cause they are trying to dismount you as well.
- Never be dismounted in a fight unless you can ninja transform.
- NEVER CHASE AN ENEMY by yourself, it is - a. usually a trap - b. you will rarely ever get the kill - once they are off and running its too late.
- ALWAYS STAY ON THE SAME SCREEN AS YOUR GUILDMATES - having a field fight and getting split up is a sure way to lose a fight.
- Keep a restock supply in your bank, regs, armour, potions, bandages, jewelry to get back into a fight quicker.
- Use VENT - listen in, call out targets.  If you can't use vent, watch who everyone else is attacking and attack them (kill the mages first).
- Set up your macro's and PRACTICE THEM.


The 3 step process to becoming a better pvp'er:
1.  You need to get over the fear.  The very first time a person is ever attacked in pvp, they usually experience fear.  The fear of death, the fear of unknown, the fear of losing your equipment, the fear that some big bad red evil dude is attacking you.  You need to get over this.  My suggestion - die a lot.  Hang out in front of Krystal's house with nothing on and let her keep killing you, you'll eventually realize its no big deal.  Some people get over this fear the 3rd time they die, some people it takes 100.  The problem is, when you are scared, you are not thinking straight.
2.  You need to stop thinking.  If you are in a fight and an enemy badly damages you and then you need to think "hmm, I'm hurt, now I need to click F1 which is my greater heal macro then wait for the cursor to show up and target myself" you're dead.  You need to stop thinking of what to do, you need to know what you will do before it happens, so much so that it becomes:
3.  Instincts through repetition.  You need to train up and practice a lot so that everything becomes instinctive to you.  When you first start driving, you think about everything you need to do, "I want to change lanes so I need to check my mirrors, check my blind spot, use my turn signal, and slowly move over."  Once you've driving for 3 months, this all becomes instincts – same thing with pvp.  When someone damages you, you know to instinctively click your heal macro.  When someone poisons you, you know to instinctively hit your cure macro.  The best way to train up your instincts is through dueling.

If you are new to PvP and don't know what to do in the middle of a fight:

First off, follow this general priority list of what to do:
1.  Heal an almost dead guildmate.
2.  Rez a dead guildmate.
3.  Loot a fallen enemy to take them out of a fight.
4.  Kill a redlined enemy.

Basic field strategies for:
Mages – stick with your guildmates, have a greater heal precast, and heal any guildmates that fall below ½ health.
Warriors – attack anyone your guildmates are attacking – use high damage abilities (armour ignore, lightening strike, deathstrike, concussion) on any enemy less than ½ health.

Intermediate field strategies for (use the basic strategies plus):
Mages – Curse your target, concentrate on high damage spells (explo/ebolt/flamestrike), heal up guildmates.
Warriors – para blow running enemies, mortal or bleed enemies on low health.

Advanced field strategies for (use intermediate strategies plus):
Mages – Mages fights are all about the dance.  Timing, rhythm, and getting into the flow of a battle (not as much anymore but still holds true).  You have a vast array of weapons at your disposal, and you need to know which one to use at the right moment.  With a group of mages, you always start off by firing off an initial salvo of high damage spells.  Start as a group with explo pre-cast, meet up with the enemies, and everyone target a single enemy with explo and finish off with ebolt/flamestrike.  A backup mage should always have gheal precast to counter as the enemy is probably doing the same thing.  Hopefully you can take out 1-2 targets in the initial salvo.  After this, the field fighting begins.  Curse your enemy, keep your guildmates alive, and try and get 2-3 mages to fire high damage spells at a common enemy.  If they are low on health and trying to heal, get close and harm.
Warriors – Get into the face of mages and disrupt them.  Take a few shots, keep shooting at them and let them heal if they are.  Hopefully, they make a mistake and let their guard down and fall to 50% of health or less, that's when you go in for the kill.  Mana dump your high damage moves on them (armour ignore, lightening strike, death strike, bleed, concussion, whatever).  If it doesn't work, regen your mana and do it again.


Ohh, and I almost forgot the most important rule of pvp, don't forget – this is fun! =)

(man this ended up being longer than I thought).

Sir Morder

Well stated. Just wanted to remind everyone to bless their best piece of equipment, be it armor, jewel, or weapon. Never bring into combat what you can't afford to lose. We're not going to win every battle :-)
Lastly, don't fuss over dying and losing GM made equipment. And if you lose something worth losing ask a guildie, maybe it can be replaced with same or similar. Thanks.

N49ATV

Well im not expert yet...I said yet. But I die a few times, its not too bad. Though I have never used curse, guess I should to lower stats. Now one thing I find useful is poison. If you can get a poison in, thats one more time they gotta disarm to chug, or stop a heal cast, or even spend time getting an An Nox up. So it has its small uses.

Also I dont have a legend smith (only around 85), but I got a Legend Tailor, and GM lore. Anyone who has leather, as I dont have a lot, come on down. Ill crank ya out 50 suits if you want. Pre bag em with all you need to get back out there. Regs, Aids, jewels, whatever. And have a quick grab system if you are looted.

Im sure we got a smith somewhere, who can do the same for anyone else. I have some ingots (as i worked mining first). Not a lot of colored, but I got a ton of iron if your gonna run that gear. So if so, let me know and I can hook ya up with some of any of the ingots I have. I just dont have too much high end color.
It may be short, but it sure is skinny

Troop

Quote from: N49ATV on April 24, 2009, 02:34:37 AM
Im sure we got a smith somewhere, who can do the same for anyone else. I have some ingots (as i worked mining first). Not a lot of colored, but I got a ton of iron if your gonna run that gear. So if so, let me know and I can hook ya up with some of any of the ingots I have. I just dont have too much high end color.

My crafter Edwin, has all of the crafting skills maxed. He has a small supply of all of the ingots, leather etc. He does not have the recipe for the shard thrasher but I think he can make pretty much anything else.
Everything is better when you are wearing purple shoes.

Kael

Ill second this as well...dont worry about jewels or gm armor. if you need either let me know. I have a massve amount of jewels and about 12k of barbed/horned leathers to make suits with.

I'm toying with the idea of placing a house near whomever we are warring with. I'll then friend all and stockpile with a ton of pots, suits, enhanced bandies regs ect ect. In essence we will lose the guild war in kills before we ever need to end the fight cause we need to leave to reequip:)

Troop

Quote from: Kael on April 24, 2009, 03:55:41 AM
Ill second this as well...dont worry about jewels or gm armor. if you need either let me know. I have a massve amount of jewels and about 12k of barbed/horned leathers to make suits with.

I'm toying with the idea of placing a house near whomever we are warring with. I'll then friend all and stockpile with a ton of pots, suits, enhanced bandies regs ect ect. In essence we will lose the guild war in kills before we ever need to end the fight cause we need to leave to reequip:)

That is some good planning there!
Everything is better when you are wearing purple shoes.

Tiberius

Sounds like you guys are doing the same thing as me! I have been pre- making runic suits using some stuff I had plus a bunch I bought off Big D. 


N49ATV

I can donate some regs to the pile. I got a bunch of GA pots I was gonna sell to Pwn. I also got some kegs of TR etc. And Im an alchemist so I can make whatever. I got a bunch of cloth, so I can make regular robes etc. But I havent done much with the bod system, so I cant make special colors as I dont have the cloth.
It may be short, but it sure is skinny

Tangar

Very usefull guide. Thanks