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When I saw Az's PM to me this morning I typed up the details above in haste before leaving the house for the morning. Since then I've thought about it, and I've decided it doesn't matter. We are all grown people playing a game 3 decades old. We play for fun. I get wrapped up in Siege more than any prodo shard, and things that are unimportant in the grand scheme seem to mean something here. But they don't really.

No one cares if GIL PKs. No one cares if the rules are different now than a decade ago. No one cares about any of this really, because none of it matters. I shouldn't let GIL or any other group get to me the way I do. That is on me. You guys do you. VICE can be VICE. At the end of the day this is a pasttime and if it bothers me that much I should stop participating. Thanks Az and Torin for taking an interest in why my posts were deleted. I am genuinely sorry for the hassle. Hopefully you all get whatever you want out of your guild. I'll not mention any of this again. Take care.

@Torin @Gunth

Thank you for taking the time to undo my 2nd post's deletion. The 1st post appears to be deleted permanently as it is not even accessible in my post history. You have asked for clarification. Here are the "correct details" (Bia's term before the second full post wast deleted).

Several days ago I was in the Lost Lands taming mares. I had one Calavera hidden so that if a color spawned I could grab it. The other Calavera was killing mares with a pack of Shadow Hounds. The blue GIL character In Vas Mani ran down from the top of the screen, and I began typing "Howdy", because since this was a GIL player I assumed he was also there for mares. Before I could finish my greeting In Vas Mani murdered me. My character was a blue in the guild [SPHS] which has been a guild for myself and Talia for a decade now. (Talia held it while I was in GIL).

I switched to the hidden Calavera and ran up to In Vas Mani and said, "wtf?" to which he replied "Aren't you VICE?" Considering I only left GIL a few months ago and this toon knew I had been in GIL and even now was not flying VICE tags, I thought they were being ridiculous. I replied no, I was Calavera. I was very put out. I rezzed my other toon, and then collected the Shadow Hounds and ran NE to the other mare area.  In Vas Mani followed me. When it became clear that he would not leave me be, I left the Lost Lands. As I left, In Vas Mani said in General Chat, "Bye VICE!" and "VICE won't tame on my watch!" even though they KNEW I was not VICE.

I posted about this the same morning on the GIL forums. Because I still considered members of GIl to be against this action, I did not include names. That post remained for many hours without answer. Then it was deleted from the forum. Now even angrier, I posted a second time and named names for Bia, PK Killa, and In Vas Mani. I referred back to a couple of months ago when I left GIL. At the time I had not shared my reasoning for leaving with anyone save two players. Instead I had written GIL just wasn't a good fit.

GIL wasn't a good fit because on my last day Scooby, Bia, PK Killa, and myself were in voice and in game. Someone popped a Manifestation and we went to see if it was someone who wanted help. When we rolled up I saw that it was Mouse and a player I didn't know. Pk Killa murdered Mouse on the spot, dry looted her, and chased the other player off. Keep in mind PK Killa had just returned a few months back and admitted in voice they didn't know anything about Mouse. Scooby and I both expressed dissent that he should not have killed Mouse, and WAKA was definitely not going to like that when they heard. Bia talked past it saying well Mouse associated with WAKA and in the past a WAKA player had attacked GIL. But by that logic GIl should have killed me, or Scooby, or half of their own members.

I gave Mouse the suit I was wearing and then I left GIL.

If this were any other guild I'd say so what. I was PK'ed and that is another day on Siege. But GIL once had codes of conduct and once proclaimed to be a non-PK guild. I know there were once good people who believed in this in GIL. But there is a history of PK'ing blue players now, players who haven't attacked GIL and players who even thought they were allies of GIL. After my SECOND post was deleted I could see that things have much changed even in the last 3 months.

I no longer consider myself on friendly terms with GIL. Where once GIL would be the first group I'd recommend to someone new on Siege, now I will not mention them. Because now they are just like everyone else. Dishonorable player killers.

Edited for gramatical corrections.

Fellow Siege Perilous players,

I am deeply sorry to say that Vinny has passed away. Igg and I had been talking to him through October and at that time he had a severe case of pneumonia, but he was still his usual friendly self. Just a few weeks later he died at home with cancer.

Through his characters of Sir Vincent, Singularity, and Event Horizon he played with or against a huge number of groups and guilds on our server. Vinny was a long time member of B^A, as well as SPHS, DRMA, GIL, and a few others. He was quick to laughter and as easy going as a person could be. He loved collecting old bits of Siege history and playing factions and VvV. For years Vinny played with some combination of Igg, Talia, and myself on some crazy weekend adventure or EM event.

He will be missed.

- Calavera

Mouse,

Pk did not give you a suit back. I gave you the suit I was wearing. Sorry it wasn't as good as whatever you lost, it was literally just what I was wearing at the time.

- Calavera

Yeah, not gonna happen.  I did the Beta.  I didn't have any fun.  Stupid quest after quest.  NO

I did the same. But when NL started, I decided to just work through the Ocllo quests and then see how it went. If you choose the Narrative path and get off the island, the quest system will get your skills to 100 in a few days. And then it is killing bosses, taming pets, doing t-maps (no t-map skills required), crafting (much better system), and doing the champ spawns. I felt like I was back in the first few months of playing UO. Who knows if the feeling lasts but it has been a BLAST and that is from someone who HATED Beta.

Come play New Legacy with us. I think there are 13 toons in the guild of Siege players now.

Not messed with these in a long time, but years ago the guild I was in did a Battle Chicken Lizard tournament. We bracketed it out and had prizes for top finishers and participants. It was neat. The issue now is that everyone's stables are always full. Combine that with how there are a lot of seasonal events right now and BCL raising is going to be really low on folks priority list. Maybe could try and organize something in later winter?

Hey folks,

Magichands, Blind Otto, and myself joined together this morning to enjoy New Legacy and help each other as we can. Currently we are using my guild name [GOLD] for Grog's Rogues of Gold, my Lake Austin pirate guild for no real reason other than it isn't tied to any Siege Perilous guild. All three of us can add you to the guild, all are welcome to try out the new server with us. So far it has been a blast! Look for us in game or reply to this message and we'll get you added.

- Calavera

Hi Robert,

I had no frost dragons in stables. Tried 4 or 5 Hoard maps but only ones that spawned were Ancient Guardians. If one turns up I'll post here.

-- Cal

Robert,

I'll try and log on around 3 and see if there is a spare frosty in my stables. I just gave one away so we might have to farm one up. The Frost Dragons are great pets I think. Hope to see you later.

-- Calavera

Thanks Mavia, I sent you a PM here.

-- Calavera

Live with Malloc?! Whoa whoa whoa! I don't know when to use red wine vs white wine so Malloc's may be too upscale for me. Maybe I could just sleep under the seats at the auction house? Might even find some loose change under there.

Members of Gilfane,

These past ten years we have often opposed each other under rival banners. At IDOCs, EM events, VvV battles, and even in the pages of Stratics posts you and I have spilled blood. But we have also at times found ourselves united against a common foe, and many of your members have treated me with kindness and honor. I find myself increasingly alone in the land, and this age diminishes. Can those who have spoken the harshest words learn to be silent? Can one who has raised a weapon in anger now offer a song of peace?

I, Calavera, he who first fought you at the UNDEAD Guildhouse IDOC so many years ago and who has hounded your name across the years of an age, I beseech you for admittance into House Vorrak in supplication as one humbled. A man would gladly serve if past enmity could be forgotten in the pages of time.

What say you Gilfane?

Final call for offers, anything timestamped over 4 hours from this post will not be part of the initial trades. (If it is for an item that is left over I'll consider it after delivering the other items). I have good offers on most of the EM rares so please submit your trade offer if there is something you want (review the list in the link above). Thanks all, have a great weekend!
 

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