Makign an archer with the main goal of spawns and pvp..original template was gonna be 120 arch/bush/chiv/tact/resist/60 magery for gate scrolls and rest in focus or med...but have been wondering if my char would be more viable with no resist and then gm anat/heal and keep chiv in 90 range..any advice is welcome..thanks
My ninja/archer sure is a lot of fun, and a major pain for the enemy... 8)
would you mind sharing your template?
I think having a killer archer for spawns and pvp is asking too much. It's easier to concentrate on one or the other.
I run a 120 arch/tact/chiv/resist/focus/med, primarily for pvm/spawns. I've gotten flak for running chiv so high, but I enjoy it. Putting 240 into focus and med is a bit rough, but it works wonders. I would recommend not dropping resist. I used to run 120 bush but sank it because the benefits are minimal for the cost; it's better off for meleers.
How does 120 ninja/arch/tact/ with 100 hide/resist and 80 stealth/med sound?
Thanks for the input Jef..will have to look into ninja skill more not real familar with it
My Ninja/Archer is
120 Ninja
120 Archery
100 Tactics
100 Anatomy
100 Healing
100 Hiding
80 Stealth
Poison darts and stars are your friend, and potions are your partner...
Does good PvM and PvP
PvP/PvM Archer Template:
120 Archery
100 Tactics
100 Anat
100 heal
120 Bushido
120 med
60 Chiv
Alternatively:
120 Archery
100 Tactics
100 anat
100 heal
120 Bushido
120 resist
60 chiv
If you are in GIL, I'd go more for the med one. You will see some PvP, but not enough to warrant the use of resist. With that template you should do very well.
Speedy's is good. I run a pvp/pvm archer similar to that..mine is:
pvp: Good Composite Bow
Archery 120
Bushido 120
Anatomy 100
Tactics 100
Healing 100
Resist 100
Med 80
pvm: Good Magical Shortbow (nice specials for spawns)
Archery 120
Bushido 120
Anatomy 100
Tactics 100
Healing 100
Chiv 100
Med 80
Takes only 2 soulstones to run this character. Works really well both ways.
nice thank you both..was hoping to find a way to make the bush and chiv work together
Aeryn's look pretty good too. Although I personally wouldn't run 100 chiv.
120 archery
120 bushido
90 healing
90 tacs
110 anatomy
90 medi
100 chivalry
I don't use resist, might need it when you fight more than one, I seem to do ok though.
I run with a balanced bow and good armor though, and pots, bandaids and confidence keeps you alive easy. trapped crates keeps you moving.
solid template for pvm and pvp.
I run a similar template to mystical with one small variation
I have lower Med and Chiv and have added some ninjitsu for poisoned stars
Find it a very stable template with many variations of wep's available depending on the situation.
How much ninjitsu you'd need for that?
I thought about doing that
Quote from: Speedy Claxton on September 23, 2008, 07:43:56 PM
Aeryn's look pretty good too. Although I personally wouldn't run 100 chiv.
Yeah, I agree there except that I REALLY like holy light at spawns...
That 100 chiv is only for pvm mode, I run resist for pvp mode. I make up the lack of chiv with pots and a balanced bow.
Quote from: Mystikal on September 24, 2008, 04:51:24 PM
How much ninjitsu you'd need for that?
I thought about doing that
Problem with ninjitsu for stars is that you need a lot of skill points. Your chance to hit with stars is your ninja skill versus their fighting skill (wrestling on mages or ana/eval). So really, unless you got 100-120 ninja your not gonna hit much with stars.
Quote from: Aeryn Dwinrae on September 24, 2008, 11:04:01 PM
Quote from: Mystikal on September 24, 2008, 04:51:24 PM
How much ninjitsu you'd need for that?
I thought about doing that
Problem with ninjitsu for stars is that you need a lot of skill points. Your chance to hit with stars is your ninja skill versus their fighting skill (wrestling on mages or ana/eval). So really, unless you got 100-120 ninja your not gonna hit much with stars.
Which is exactly why my Archer has 120 Ninja, instead of Bushido...
some ncie options her thank you all..what about stats currently running 90str 100dex and 40 int with no stat scroll yet
You want max dex on an archer, bows are slow.
I wouldn't be without my lightning strike compared to toss a dart tbh.
I am actually amazed at the answers you have gotten and how many people have answered you with absolutely no idea what they are talking about. They are correct with templates about PvP but are so far clueless as to a PvM archer template. You people are supposed to be all about farming, my god no wonder we have to wait so long to raid your spawns. Velg you have my icq send me a Q and ill tell you a template that can solo any spawn or peerless.
Can't ghost cams be set up to just notify you when approach final level of spawn before champ?? ;)
Absolutely, however anyone there with Spirit Speak can see the ghost and then your whole crew leaves. Its easier to find the spawn from afar then wait till final level or even when the champ is up. From popping the champ till champ is dead should take no longer than 15 minutes for a rat spawn with a solo PvM archer.
Quote from: Enigma on September 25, 2008, 12:34:44 PM
I am actually amazed at the answers you have gotten and how many people have answered you with absolutely no idea what they are talking about. They are correct with templates about PvP but are so far clueless as to a PvM archer template. You people are supposed to be all about farming, my god no wonder we have to wait so long to raid your spawns. Velg you have my icq send me a Q and ill tell you a template that can solo any spawn or peerless.
It's not that we dont know things that can solo spawns. I use a necro. But he had specific requirements in his requested template.
P.S. Welcome to the boards Enigma!
Yeah I have been reading your posts for a long time but this seemed so dumb i had to give my 2 cents worth.
Lets see how long i can be here without someone banning me for pointing out the flaws and common misconceptions your guild has about this game. Or point blank calling Aeowyn a freaking nut job.
Post away that template then sir
I'm tired of the 40 minute spawns
No kidding, I need that Template too
105 necro
100 spirit speak
120 archery
100 tactics
120 bushido
85 healing
90 Anat
That is what I'd use to solo a spawn, with full honor virtue.
Oh no...the age of the Sampire has hit Siege too!!
15 minutes? Id like to see that :/
Quote from: Enigma on September 25, 2008, 01:52:45 PM
Yeah I have been reading your posts for a long time but this seemed so dumb i had to give my 2 cents worth.
Lets see how long i can be here without someone banning me for pointing out the flaws and common misconceptions your guild has about this game. Or point blank calling Aeowyn a freaking nut job.
We appreciate your two cents but you haven't given them yet. You have insulted and insinuated but failed to share any knowledge.
As for Aeowyn, tell us something we don't know :)
It is VERY possible to do a spawn in 15, kill the champ in 5.
no matter who tells me that, I would have to see it before believing.
I've never been very good at these templates
I always loved my necro for spawns but worried that it would be way too mana intensive for me here on Siege
Now I'm tempted to make a cramped template even more cramped and add it Kael....hhmmmmmmm
Quote from: Speedy Claxton on September 25, 2008, 10:45:04 PM
It is VERY possible to do a spawn in 15, kill the champ in 5.
Enlighten us since Enigma hasn't please. I know how to get to the champ pretty fast with necro, but I have never seen a fast way to kill Coon without tamers and certainly not with a single archer, even with chivalry.
Withers in wraith form to get to champ, 15 minutes, tops, Then for champ, short bow with lightning strike, honor it, enemy of one, vermin slayer talisman. You will hit for 150-200 most shots, Champ will die in no time.
Basically Carry, Bloodwood spirit, and Midnight bracers for wrait form, Good bow with verim tally and bushido....
thats never going to be 15 minutes :P
Im sorry Vortex , I moved on from this post. This was Velg's question i told him to icq me and i sent him all the info right down to what gear he needs to run. How to kill the spawn and then do 200 points of damage per hit on the coon. I cant see how i didnt do exactly what it said i would do in my post.
Quote from: Speedy Claxton on September 26, 2008, 07:21:28 AM
Withers in wraith form to get to champ, 15 minutes, tops, Then for champ, short bow with lightning strike, honor it, enemy of one, vermin slayer talisman. You will hit for 150-200 most shots, Champ will die in no time.
Interesting! Thanks...I'll try that, never used a talisman!
Talismans can help quite a bit ;)